tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3511332502155562886.post9036971158229673326..comments2024-03-29T03:06:01.745-04:00Comments on Write to Publish: The magic number...Robin Sullivanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00613910688999698522noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3511332502155562886.post-62343209773060161522013-02-17T04:12:33.973-05:002013-02-17T04:12:33.973-05:00Welcome to mmoggg website to buy RS Gold, offer a ...Welcome to mmoggg website to buy <a href="http://www.saferunescapegold.com/" rel="nofollow">RS Gold</a>, offer a lot, of course, <a href="http://www.cheapd3gold.com/" rel="nofollow">Diablo 3 Gold</a> or <a href="http://www.kaufendiablo3gold.de/" rel="nofollow">Diablo 3 Gold Kaufen</a> and <a href="http://www.saferunescapegold.com/" rel="nofollow">Cheap RS Gold</a>, to be purchased at any time, at any time shipment, and look forward to your visit!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09783842817859874778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3511332502155562886.post-25170040281497134922011-06-04T05:21:19.675-04:002011-06-04T05:21:19.675-04:00David - thanks for the additional data - I had kno...David - thanks for the additional data - I had known how active Trident Group was as they signed 2 people that I knew of, looks like they picked up some more as well. Pretty smart and innovative thhinking and bodes well for their organization.Robin Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00613910688999698522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3511332502155562886.post-5625218009539144192011-06-04T05:19:07.077-04:002011-06-04T05:19:07.077-04:00Hey Abagail - I'm really shocked that you ran ...Hey Abagail - I'm really shocked that you ran into that. So certainly some data points in the "other direction'. Such attitudes is baffling to me as it makes more sense to grab up people with a a platform then those that don't. <br /><br />I agree with you on the self-publishing stigma - it is certainly "better" than it has been in the past - and will continue to improve but I see people saying every day that self-published books are "crap". Some of them do come up lacking - but I've read some great self published stuff.Robin Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00613910688999698522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3511332502155562886.post-47059176701324405262011-06-04T05:13:55.357-04:002011-06-04T05:13:55.357-04:00Susie,
Good point. I hope that indeed we are movi...Susie, <br />Good point. I hope that indeed we are moving to a similar model.Robin Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00613910688999698522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3511332502155562886.post-66489225064572140662011-06-04T00:04:02.112-04:002011-06-04T00:04:02.112-04:00Lindsay - congrats - 1,000 a month regardless of t...Lindsay - congrats - 1,000 a month regardless of the number of tittles is a worthy accomplishment. In my mind I look at that threshold as the start of the "self-published midlist"<br /><br />As for genre and how much part it has to play - I don't have any great answer -- other to say that in general non-fiction if easier to sell than fiction and genre fiction is easier than gneral or literary fiction.Robin Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00613910688999698522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3511332502155562886.post-86634978704303029792011-06-04T00:01:42.491-04:002011-06-04T00:01:42.491-04:00@Leslie, glad to have set a goal - ebven if you ha...@Leslie, glad to have set a goal - ebven if you have no intention of going traditional, it at least gives us a number to say ... if you reach it you have some "legitmacy" in the eyes of several professionals.Robin Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00613910688999698522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3511332502155562886.post-14858687240677493942011-06-03T20:41:14.911-04:002011-06-03T20:41:14.911-04:00Hi Robin,
I was doing a little research on this t...Hi Robin,<br /><br />I was doing a little research on this the other day. I posted on Kindle Boards asking who was approached by an agent after self-pubbing. <br /><br />These are the ones that responded (or that I knew about).<br /><br />All self-published authors, all approached by agents:<br /><br />Mel Comley - May - Richard Curtis<br />LC Evans - April <br />Victorine Lieske - March - Rachel Vogel, Movable Type<br />Scott Neumyer - January - Anna Webman, Curtis Brown<br />Amanda Hocking - August 2010 - Stephen Axelrod<br />John Locke - April - Dystel & Goderich<br />Linda Welch - Fall 2010 - Robert Gottlieb, Trident<br />Lynda Hilburn - Robert Gottlieb, Trident<br />Christopher Smith - Matt Bialer, SJGA<br />David Dalglish - Spanish agency for foreign rights<br />Nancy Johnson - July 2010 - Erica Silverman, Trident<br />Colleen Houck - 2010 - Alex Glass, Trident<br />Imogen Rose - recently<br /><br />What's interesting to me is that out of the ones I have dates for (10 of 13), 50% of them were signed in the last three months.<br /><br />Also, 4 of the 11 I have agencies for have signed with Trident - one of the agencies that have come out strongly against agents becoming publishers.<br /><br />This of course doesn't include people who agents are currently chasing (like Michael Wallace and Saffina Desforges), the writers who have been approached directly by publishers (both foreign and domestic), or the writers who have no interest in representation. <br /><br />And, it only includes a group of people that responded over the course of a day on Kindle Boards and three or four I knew of myself.<br /><br />Pretty impressive.<br /><br />DaveDavid Gaughranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13236692339928690142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3511332502155562886.post-38379555096949181882011-06-03T16:31:40.543-04:002011-06-03T16:31:40.543-04:00Hi Robin,
Thanks for this post. I was thinking th...Hi Robin,<br /><br />Thanks for this post. I was thinking the other day that our human world is basically profit-based in nature, especially when you're in business (duh!:D). So, if ebooks corner the market or even gain a large part of it, it's only logical for the businesses that are traditional publishing houses to spot those who self-publish and sell well and take them on for themselves, simply cause it's evidence of a platform and ready-made fans. It's just common sense for any kind of profit-revolving-business that involves PR and marketing to find what will be the next thing to bring them profit and solidify their business while lessening their own investment in PR and marketing (to an extent). <br /><br />So I definitely see where you're coming from. And even if lots of ppl disagree with you now, I'm betting time will prove you right. It's just the way competitive business works, if it wants to stay afloat, which I'm thinking the publishing industry does:D<br /><br />Oh, and Susie, I was chuckling when I read your comment! It's such an apt comparison. The analogy between TV and self-publishing occured to me when I was watching a favourite TV series featuring a well-known film actor. Obviously, he'd caught on to the fact that the medium for 'moving pictures' doesn't really matter to the audience- they just want to watch a good show. <br /><br />Same situation with stories. Used to be handed down verbally, then stone tablets, parchment, etc (haha the order's probably wrong somewhere there), paper, e-devices... they're all just the medium for telling stories. Once you get your head around that concept, change becomes simply... inevitable... and is almost certainly for the better as far as the consumer is concerned... It'll be great though if those adhering to the traditional system can adapt and find new, creative ways to get with the changes so's they can stay strong in the game... which will happen at the end, I hope... <br /><br />After all, we still have the cinema... but we also have wide-screen TV:DD Cheers.Isabella Amarishttp://isabellaamaris.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3511332502155562886.post-10886722044473079092011-06-03T13:25:08.115-04:002011-06-03T13:25:08.115-04:00Hey, Robin! It was great to meet you at Balticon. ...Hey, Robin! It was great to meet you at Balticon. :)<br /><br />Just for the record - the round of submissions I did for Cowry Catchers about 5 months ago produced at least 3 (that I can remember) responses that said, "We can't look at this because it was self-published." And that was only in audio. I hadn't released ebooks yet. One actually said, "We might be interested in this if you hadn't self-published it" (in audio). I had a prolonged dialogue with that small press editor. She felt strongly about the issue.<br /><br />No telling how many others thought the same thing, but didn't bother to say it to me.<br /><br />Self-publishing (in any form) will close some doors to a person who is hell-bent on getting a traditional deal. However, I wouldn't want a publisher who thought that way. I feel that I've done better on my own than I would have with any of them. I've certainly had more fun.<br /><br />However, I see indies everywhere saying that the self-published stigma is dead. It isn't. It's wounded, but still breathing. It remains a deal-killer to some small presses.<br /><br />Not that that should stop anyone.Abigail Hiltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15226877642966705816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3511332502155562886.post-55512745125025555302011-06-03T09:27:30.928-04:002011-06-03T09:27:30.928-04:00Susie, this is an interesting comparison. When I ...Susie, this is an interesting comparison. When I worked in theatre, I remember friends bemoaning the fact that in Great Britain, actors crossed over from voice-actor to stage-actor to film-actor to telly-actor. (Think Stephen Fry, Judi Dench for starters.) There was, then in GB, no stigma attached. I think you are right that this will happen more quickly with writers than it did with film/tv actors. They had more to lose. (Or the perception that they had more to lose.)cidney swansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12753866529249766084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3511332502155562886.post-66121610075942772252011-06-02T21:05:14.351-04:002011-06-02T21:05:14.351-04:00I agree with you. I think the old way of thinking ...I agree with you. I think the old way of thinking about is it exactly that, the old way of thinking about it. Take the movie industry, for instance; it used to be that a television actor would never be considered for the film industry, and an actor with a film career who dared to cross the line by taking television work, was out on his/her butt and would never be hired back for the big screen. That standard began to fade away in the 80's and although it was a slow start, in turning a blind eye to the long standard rule, it's quite common now for actors to cross over frequently throughout their careers. I truly believe this will happen in the book world. It won't however, take near as long to become the norm, as it did for film/television. I'm convinced with the phenomena of the ebook industry, print can't turn their backs on the self-published ebook authors for very much longer. Financially, it just doesn't make sense.Susie Rosso Wolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17124348834477365327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3511332502155562886.post-75485480226317847262011-06-02T19:00:04.656-04:002011-06-02T19:00:04.656-04:00Great idea for a post, and very interesting! I bro...Great idea for a post, and very interesting! I broke 1,000 ebooks last month, though not all of the same title (500 and change for my best seller), so 5,000 in a year doesn't seem at all unreachable, even to a relative n00b like myself. ;)<br /><br />I'm not looking for a print deal though (might consider it at the advance-big-enough-to-buy-a-house-in-cash point, hah) as I'm hoping I could do this full time after I get more books out, and I think staying indie is the way to go if that's the goal.<br /><br />I wonder how much other factors weigh in. Like would a fantasy author doing a six-book series, where all the books are selling well, be more attractive than someone with a single bestseller and then modest sales on unrelated titles? And I imagine having a popular blog and some name recognition could be a factor too.<br /><br />Fun to watch and see what happens!<br /><br />~Lindsay<br /><a href="http://www.lindsayburoker.com" rel="nofollow">Ebook Endeavors</a>Lindsay Burokerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07955277387824031696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3511332502155562886.post-41253069643509312542011-06-02T18:52:42.417-04:002011-06-02T18:52:42.417-04:00At last- I have a goal to shoot for- thank you for...At last- I have a goal to shoot for- thank you for all the time you invested in finding this out.Lesliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04159264352808421507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3511332502155562886.post-88554620204542073102011-06-02T14:11:10.116-04:002011-06-02T14:11:10.116-04:00@K. - Romance is huge market - to further classify...@K. - Romance is huge market - to further classify it as "christian" might limit it a bit but in general any segment where you can find a defined group of people (which yours does) is better than a more general "literary fiction" category.Robin Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00613910688999698522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3511332502155562886.post-19089519617065267912011-06-02T14:09:29.942-04:002011-06-02T14:09:29.942-04:00@Robert - the format (ebook or pbook) does not mat...@Robert - the format (ebook or pbook) does not matter but the price could. On one hand I could imagine someone might say .. hmmm 20,000 sold that's an audience and worth looking at. Another may say - but would they be willing to pay a higher price (an argument I'm sure many had when trying to decide to pickup Amazda). <br /><br />Things get "stickier" in the "low discounted cost world. And it goes without saying - even more wiggy if you have many free copies given away.Robin Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00613910688999698522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3511332502155562886.post-66951445457961572172011-06-02T13:49:49.182-04:002011-06-02T13:49:49.182-04:00I wonder if the genre you are writing in makes a d...I wonder if the genre you are writing in makes a difference. I write Inspirational romantic fiction and there really doesn't seem to be a huge presence in the indie world. I don't hear of any authors writing christian fiction being approached by agents/editors for book deals.Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09753199463334338618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3511332502155562886.post-32550120740791372292011-06-02T13:11:21.193-04:002011-06-02T13:11:21.193-04:00I assume that's 5000 print books. So the 20,0...I assume that's 5000 print books. So the 20,000 $0.99 kindle books I sold in May would not qualify. ;)Robert Burton Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07821314494504718440noreply@blogger.com